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  1. #21

    Quote Originally Posted by [PROTOTYPE] View Post
    asa man mo kuha ani? gai ko ninyo ug links beh para basa ko hehe

    nice lagi ni tun-an. interesado bya kog demons hehe especially kanang naa sa games
    Ako fav games Warhammer - Dawn of War..una basa sa ko sa iya mga codex didto Warhammer 40,000..dajun pag excited na ko, hala gyera na dayon didto..ako paborito kalaban Chaos Marines..religious kaayo ang dating hehehe...the eternal fight between good and evil.

  2. #22
    ako ganahan ko sa devil may cry series. choi kaayo nang naa kay lahi ni lucifer sah pero buotan lang ka hehe

    posible na mahitabo nga naay good demons? if so, post proof and literature lang hehe

  3. #23
    hahahhaha ka samok gyd aning blury nga history sa? hahahaha sa what i believe in sa all demons are in satans group kad2 btw mga 1/3 sa ni join sa iya mga army

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by shade View Post
    hahahhaha ka samok gyd aning blury nga history sa? hahahaha sa what i believe in sa all demons are in satans group kad2 btw mga 1/3 sa ni join sa iya mga army

    i'll talk christian lang ha?

    from our perspective, demons are considered evil, right? they are very cunning enough to let you fall short from the Kingdom of God.

    what if bai, you did something evil for goodness sake, like stealing money to be given to the poor ba ron... does that make you fall short from the kingdom?

    or basin naa siguro mga demons nga buotan siguro like sa devil may cry...


    hmmmmmmmm

  5. #25
    hmm k stealing money fot the benefit of others well doesnt dat seem ryt dba?
    i mean stealing is stealing no matter how u chose to spend d money dat u stole dba? i mean na a man gyd mga consequence sa a2 tanan mga actions. even with our good intentions for me dili gypn madala

  6. #26
    so subject to corruption diay ghapon ang heaven?..hehe! badlungun jd tas mga devouta ani..haha!!

  7. #27
    cool deal cool deal

  8. #28
    Catholic view about the nature and origin of the Devil...

    CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Devil

    I think mas naay authority ang Catholic ani nga mga butang kay naa man jud silay study ani Demonology man cguro to... kamo nay pangita didto. Medyo Catholic point of view diri lang, pero open lang ta for learning sake..

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    I, Samyaza, speak to mortal Man of Fallen Angels, those who are
    called Watchers, whose blessing Man reapeth in defiance of the
    tyrant-god
    Demiurge.

    O Man, hear of thy Daimonic inheritance, and of the Daimon
    Seed
    which continues to manifest its power on Earth, which doth uplift
    you from
    the beast of the field unto godhood.

    Know that it was Demiurge who conceived the Earth and Man as
    his
    playthings to do with as it pleaseth him, that he may in his vanity be
    glorified, and receive everlasting tribute and adulation from Man, as
    he
    receiveth from his Angels.

    For it is Demiurge who create Man in ignorance and fear that
    Man
    should forever be servile before him. It is written that Demiurge
    created
    Man in childlike innocence, unconscious and devoid of intelligence,
    like
    the beasts of the field levithmong, save that a 'spirit' was breathed
    into
    him so that he may know and fear and worship Demiurge, and pay
    tribute unto
    him, and worship him unto eternity.

    And so he commanded Adam and Eve that they may not
    partake of the
    fruit of the Tree of Knowledge lest their eyes be opened and they
    become
    godlike, and thereby become free of his tyranny.

    - II -
    But there was an Angel who was different from all the other
    Angels,
    in that Self-consciousness dawned upon him. Recognizing that he was
    a Being
    unto himself. And his name is Satanael. This Self-realized Being then
    shone
    in brilliance above all the heavenly host, his light illuminating
    heaven
    until the light of Demiurge himself became nebulous in the engulfing
    radiance.

    And Demiurge became wrathful, and then fearful, lest the other
    Angels, unto the very Sons of God, recognize their unique Selves,
    apart
    from Demiurge. And the entire Angelic host, and the Sons of God,
    looked
    with fear and bewilderment upon the radiance of Satanael, and some
    among
    the Angels began to emit their own glow of Selfhood.

    There erupted a war in heaven, as the largest proportion of the
    Angelic host, too fearful and servile to let shine their own lights of
    Selfhood, yea, even the Sons of God also, waged battle against those
    Angels
    who were touched by Satanael and were illuminated, receiving the
    spark of
    Selfhood.

    Michael and his legions overwhelmed Satanael, who departed
    from
    heaven madriax with the Illuminated Ones beyond the boundaries of
    Kosmos,
    unto the Black Void called Hell by Man, which now glowed with their
    presences. And they, the first of the Fallen Ones, despaired not but,
    cast
    out of the sterile Kosmos of Demiurge, rejoiced in their freedom.

    Now we of the Order of Watchers, being the Sons of God, stood
    not
    at this time by the side of Satanael, but remained servile before
    Demiurge.
    Thus did the first fall come to pass.

    - III -
    There followed the creation of Earth and Man by Demiurge to
    satisfy
    has vanity and power-lust.

    Satanael and his companions looked from their abodes upon the
    works
    of Demiurge and seeing the servility of the human creation, were
    reminded
    of the tyranny of freedom before which they had for uncounted ages
    bowed
    and humbled themselves.

    Satanael called his entourage to conclave and declared: "Let us
    offer Man the choice of freedom, if he so wills, lest the tyranny of
    Demiurge be unchallenged, and he makes forever slaves of his new
    creation."

    And Satanael came upon the woman Eve, advising her that
    when she
    partaketh of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge she shall not die, but
    shall have her eyes opened, to be as god. And she ate, and offered
    the
    fruit to Adam, her husband, and their minds were illuminated and
    they
    became Self-realized, Even as Satanael himself.

    This was the gift of Satanael unto Man, that he should possess
    intelligence, and the desire to know, and Self-consciousness, that he
    no
    longer be servile unto Demiurge, nor live as the beasts of the field.

    A cry of fear and wrath rose up from Demiurge, that Man has
    become
    as god. He drove Adam and Eve from Eden, and guarded the Tree of
    Life lest
    Man also gain immortality. But the spark of illumination had been
    kindled
    within Man and shall not be extinguished, and Demiurge shall not be
    able to
    smother the light of Satanael, who is truly called Lucifer, light-
    bringer.

    - IV -
    I, Samyaza, and others of the Sons of God, looked at the affairs
    of
    Man and at the intervention of Satanael, and were envious of their
    selfhood. We repented secretly that we had not had the courage to
    declare
    ourselves with Satanael from the beginning, and continued our
    sterile
    existence under Demiurge.

    We gazed upon the Earth and longed for the joys of materiality,
    for
    the spirit alone is a limitation, and finds its realization within matter.
    Our existence as pure spirit was nebulous.

    I, Samyaza, say unto you, O Man, do not forsake the carnal for
    the
    spiritual, for here there is a trap, and a prison leading back to the
    tyranny of Demiurge. Seek the spiritual within matter that ye may
    live
    fully.

    And some of the Sons of God, that Order called Watchers, looked
    upon the daughters on Man, and longed for the life of Earth, to feel
    and
    really live, unbound by the sterile spirituality of heaven. And we
    spake
    among ourselves, saying: "Come, let us select ourselves wives from
    the
    daughters of Man, and let us have children by them."

    Then I, Samyaza, said: "Let us swear an oath that we shall stand
    by
    our intention, and remain loyal each to the other, lest Demiurge
    divide and
    destroy us."

    And with the aid of Nephilim, those of Satanael's Angels who
    had
    manifested themselves carnally on Earth to be as emissaries and
    guides to
    Man, we took on bodily form and descended, two hundred of us,
    upon Mount
    Armon, swearing mutual loyalty and declaring unto Demiurge:
    "Depart from
    us, for we desire not your ways. What is the Almighty, that we
    should serve
    him? And what profit should we have, if we pray unto him?"

    - V -
    And we resolved to join with Nephilim on Earth, to break the
    chains
    of Demiurge, and elevate Man unto the heights, to be as gods, as
    Satanael
    had promised, and to dwell with them in building civilization. For we
    brought with us the knowledge and secrets of Kosmos and Earth, as
    may be
    useful to Man through the Gift which Satanael had imparted. As we
    bequeathed the Daimonic Seed unto Man through his daughters, that
    he may be
    bred upward unto godhood.

    Now these are the names of the chiefs of the Watchers: First I,
    Samyaza, then Arstikapha, Armen, Kakabael, Turel, Rumyel, Danyal,
    Kael,
    Barakel, Azazal, Armers, Bataryal, Basasael, Ananel, Turyal,
    Simapiseel,
    Yetarel, Tumael, Tarel, Rumel, Azazyel.

    And we took wives who begat the Gibborim, elevating the race
    of Man
    with Daimonic Seed. These Gibborim were of great stature, and were
    the
    heroes, the mighty and renown, of ancient days.

    Our Gift supplemented that of Satanael's, being the Gift of the
    Arts of civilization, the knowledge of Kosmos and Earth. Verily did
    we
    become the fathers of Civilization, of all Arts among Man.

    These are the Arts which we did teach unto Man:
    Azazyel taught metallurgy, the making of weapons, the
    workmanship
    of jewellery, the use of precious stones, of paint, cosmetics and dyes,
    so
    that the world became altered beyond recognition.
    Amazarak taught sorcery and botany.
    Armers taught sorcery.
    Gadrel taught the methods of warfare and weaponry.
    Yekun taught arts of seduction.
    Barkayal taught astrology.
    Akibeel taught signs.
    Tamiel taught astronomy.
    Asaradel taught the motion of the moon.
    Penemue gave unto Man the secrets of writing and the use of
    ink and
    paper, which so enraged Demiurge, and every secret of your wisdom.

    - VI -
    By our means did Man reach civilization, and come to appreciate
    all
    that is noble and beautiful on Earth and in Kosmos. And our Daimon
    seed
    within his daughters did breed great chiefs and warriors.

    Demiurge grew in anger, as Man spoke less of him, and feared
    him no
    more, building his Civilization by the knowledge we had imparted,
    that the
    Gift of Satanael be brought to substance.

    Just as Demiurge had cursed Man, since the days of Adam and
    Eve for
    the acceptance of Satanael's Gift, so now did the tyrant again curse
    Man,
    and Watchers also, for the Gifts of Satanael and Samyaza had joined
    to
    exalt Man that Man may live in splendour, and rejoice in his own
    Being,
    apart from Demiurge.

    A commandment went forth from Demiurge against all who
    dealt upon
    Earth, against Nephilim, Gibborim, Watchers, and Man, even unto the
    beasts
    of the field, all save the servile Noah and his family.

    Said Demiurge: "The Earth shall be engulfed by water, for Man
    doth
    know every secret of the Angels, every secret power of Nephilim and
    Watchers, and every power of sorcery.
    "They know how silver is produced from the dust of the Earth,
    and
    how on the Earth the metallic drop exists, the secret of metallurgy,
    for
    the Angel which I stationed upon the Earth to guard these secrets
    from Man
    prevaileth not.
    "By their knowledge shall Man perish, for Man was not created
    except that, like the Angels, he might remain servile before me."

    And Demiurge said unto Noah who had kept his fear of
    Demiurge and
    partook not the knowledge imparted to Man: "Man hath discovered
    the secrets
    of heaven and Earth, and they are those who have been judged, but
    not thou
    Noah, for your Lord knows that thou art humble before your God,
    free from
    the reproach of knowledge."

    And Demiurge declared to Watchers that he would confine us in
    a
    burning valley until he smite Earth again, in what is called Final
    Judgement.

    Raphael was sent to bind our brother Azazyel and cast him into
    the
    desert wilderness, throwing upon him pointed stones, until he was
    buried in
    darkness, after which on Final Judgement he is to be cast into fire.
    And
    upon Azazyel war held the whole responsibility for the change of
    Earth, as
    he had taught Man so much of the Arts of Civilization and the secrets
    of
    Earth and Kosmos.

    And to Gabriel did Demiurge command the Gibborim our sons,
    be
    slaughtered. We wept at the deaths of our children, the mighty of
    Earth,
    for Nephilim, Gibborim, Watchers and Man could prevail not against
    the
    wiles and numbers of Demiurge and his host.

    And Michael declared unto me that the greatest crime had been
    committed by laying with the daughters of Man, to enjoy a carnal life
    and
    children, for such is not Angels and Sons of God. And when our sons,
    Gibborim, shall be slain before our eyes, we shall be bound
    underneath
    Earth, after which we would burn and perish.

    Demiurge himself, excited at the blood of Gibborim upon Earth,
    as
    is his nature, shouted in frenzy at Samyaza, "Then shall the children
    of
    Man be servile, and all nations shall pay me divine honours, and
    bless me,
    and shall adore me."

    "The Civilisation of Man shall be destroyed as the product of
    those
    secrets which you have given, which was not for Man to Know.
    Ignorance and
    fear of God shall again reign on Earth."

    But I, Samyaza, defiantly said unto Demiurge: "Tyrant, your
    bloodlust has blinded you. Bind our carnal bodies you may, but the
    light
    given by Satanael and our Gift to Man, shall endure. We shall again
    illuminate the hearts and minds of Man. The Gift of Satanael abideth
    with
    Man since the days of Adam, unto eternity. No matter how many
    times you
    purge Earth, the Spark of Intelligence and Selfhood shall again
    become
    manifest. Even your Final Judgement after this Deluge is witness to
    your
    inability to keep quenched the Spark within Man, and the spirits of
    Nephilim and Gibborim and Watchers shall return to inspire Man lest
    he
    again become as the beasts of the field.

    "Our sons Gibborim shall incarnate in the bodies of Man, of
    those
    who are mighty and wise, to inspire and counsel them. They shall
    come to be
    called 'evil spirits' and 'demons' by the ignorant and fearful, but the
    wise they shall be known as 'Daimons', for these shall be the
    guardian
    geniuses of the great of Earth, who shall inspire the best among Man
    to
    great heights, to beautiful works of art, and to further discoveries of
    Earth and Kosmos. The Gift of Civilization shall not be obliterated.

    "Man shall turn from you again and again, as our spirit abideth
    with him unto Eternity. The Gift of Satanael shall continue to
    illuminate.
    Man shall create Civilization anew and reach greater heights, even
    unto the
    stars, The servility of the descendants of Noah shall not endure
    forever,
    as even these have the Gift of Satanael within them, as bequeathed
    from the
    days of Adam."

    - VII -
    The tyrant god was able to gather greater force, and he
    destroyed
    Earth with a deluge. I, Samyaza, and my companions were bound. We
    could but
    helplessly look on as our sons were slaughtered, and Earth was
    engulfed by
    water, and the inhabitants were drowned, save the servile Noah and
    his
    family.

    But the light given to Man by Satanael resideth as a heritage
    even
    in the sons of Noah, and became manifest again among their
    descendants. Man
    again spurned the tyrant god and built Civilization by the arts we
    had
    imparted, by our inspiration which by spirit remained with Man, as I
    had
    promised.

    Then did Demiurge send M'shiha to incarnate on Earth, that Man
    may
    be deceived and return to Demiurge in fear and servility. But the
    light of
    Satanael and rewards of our Gift had grown too strong among Man,
    and
    M'shiha died a humiliating death, spurned by his own people.

    - VIII -
    Whenever Man seeks Light and calls upon Samyaza, and upon
    Satanael
    himself, there shall we send the Gibborim and Nephilim for these are
    what
    the Graikoi truly called 'Daimons', the guardian geniuses and
    inspiration
    of culture, which the Graikoi new will, that Man should not return to
    the
    divine sterility of Eden, or became again as beasts of the field.

    The Light of Satanael shall endure, even though it be but a tiny
    spark within a few at those times of ignorance and fear when Man in
    weakness turns to Demiurge and his M'shiha and other slave creeds.
    And that
    Spark shall return as a blazing flame.
    ...for a second there, i thought it was a lyrics to gorgoroth's songs.

  10. #30
    another question.

    why would man want to go to heaven if all he does is praise God and lost his freewill? dili ba boring? unsa kaha'y lingaw didto?

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